User talk:Frhdkazan

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--Cekli829 (talk) 18:40, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Welcome Frhdkazan! You may add some help tools to user:Frhdkazan/common.js . Please see User:Rotsaert8000 (in Esperanto), Wikidata:Tools, and Wikidata:Tools/User scripts. On the user:i18n-page you will see all WD gadget links. It takes time to see what fits most of your interests. Good luck gangLeri לערי ריינהארט (talk) 22:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Julius Caesar birth and death dates

I have reverted your addition of birth and death dates to Julius Caesar (Q1048). The death date is known to be 15 March 45 BC, but that is in the Julian calendar as actually observed in Rome. Wikidata uses the proleptic Julian calendar, which starts at a known date in the middle ages and applies the rules of the Julian calendar backward in time. Before March AD 8, the leap years were not observed exactly as Julius Caesar intended, and not enough historical records survive to convert, with certainty, the proleptic Julian calendar to the calendar as observed in Rome; there is uncertainty of a few days.

Julius Caesar's birth date is in the Roman calendar, which is a pre-Julian calendar. There is a great deal of uncertainty (on the order of months) in converting Roman calendar dates to proleptic Julian calendar dates. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:02, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Jc3s5h, I would like to put Julius Caesar on the Main Page of m:Wikipedias in the languages of Russia & some date (English & Russian Wikipedia are giving the dates I added) is important for this. I request you to reconsider your act, even if your logic might be otherwise valid. I would prefer to use Wikidata and avoid having to set respective dates manually within many wikis. Respectfully, --Frhdkazan (talk) 14:56, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Giving these dates to the nearest day and claiming they are proleptic Julian calendar dates is false. Dates in Wikidata follow the Wikibase/DataModel, which in turn explains that dates are either Gregorian or Julian calendars, and that when applicable, the proleptic versions of those calendars are used. As for the dates given in the English Wikipedia, they follow w:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Julian and Gregorian calendars, which says either the Gregorian or Julian calendar may be used. Since it does not say anything about the proleptic Julian calendar, dates in that calendar as far back as it's institution on 1 January 45 BC should be understood to be as observed in Rome. So, the Wikidata and English Wikipedia entries for Julius Caesar's death date are both correct, in terms of the two different calendars use in the two places. The English Wikipedia article explains Caesar's role in creating the new calendar, so until now I presumed people would understand that the date in the article is in the Roman calendar. But I see this is not the case, so I will revise the footnote for that article.

For your Russian Wikipedia article you should research the calendar conventions for that Wikipedia and present the dates in the calendar required in that Wikipedia. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:26, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Jc3s5h, we don't seem to understand each other. I would like Wikidata item for Julius Ceasar to contain some date (a day of the month in either Roman, Julian or Gregorian) for his birth & death, just like there's one on my English Wikipedia. Can you help me get one?Having this in Wikidata would allow me to make Julius Ceasar's name to appear on Main Pages of ~30 various WPs in various languages of Russia during the month/day of his birth & death. Would you accept the same dates referenced to En.WP? Respectfully, --Frhdkazan (talk) 17:45, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What you want is not currently allowed. As the data model says, "Presently dates refer to the (possibly proleptic) Gregorian or Julian calendar". You would have to submit a request with Phabricator to have any additional calendars recognized. It is unlikely this would be done, because it isn't possible to convert exactly between the Roman calendar and the proleptic Julian calendar, nor is it possible to convert exactly between the Julian calendar as observed in Rome and the proleptic Julian calendar until March AD 8. No doubt there are people who would like to add dates in the Islamic calendar, Chinese calendar, Hebrew calendar, and many more, but only Julian and Gregorian are supported (the proleptic version when applicable). Jc3s5h (talk) 18:26, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Translation request

Hello.

Can you create the article en:Azerbaijan National Academy of Sciences in Tatar?

Thank you.

A2D2 (talk) 21:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help with Wikidata infobox on ce.wiki

Ciao! It was a pleasure to meet you at Wikimania. Takhirgeran Umar asked me some help with ce:Кеп:НБМ-Франци, so I asked VIGNERON here for a clarification about the modelling of French communes on Wikidata. Given that using simply located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) cannot be the solution, because the template displays all the values of located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) (e.g. ce:Аббарес), not only the department, I think the only solution would be creating a Lua module behind the template (unfortunately I don't know Lua at all) and using either something like ?item wdt:P131 ?dpt . ?dpt wdt:P31 wd:Q6465 (this is SPARQL, I don't know how would it be in Lua) or importing and editing fr:Module:Adresse with its subpage fr:Module:Adresse/Formats, where they have created an explicit lists of items having instance of (P31)department of France (Q6465). The module could maybe help also be.wiki and ru.wiki, which have the same template but at the moment do not use data from Wikidata. So, my question is: do you know a user who would be able (and be willing) to create a module for this template on ce.wiki and maybe also be.wiki and ru.wiki? Thank you very much! A presto, --Epìdosis 08:30, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata:Depth

Wikidata:Depth=0.04 = 19.1 × 0 (с учётом того, что Edits = 2,292,287,718, Total = 120,024,564, NonArticles = 5193744, Articles = 114,830,820)= 1 × 0=8.73 (where NUMBEROFARTICLES is replaced by 71611020 from Wikidata:Statistics section on What is Wikidata)

Merge

Thank you for your work in maintaining Wikidata. I have a small suggestion to improve your future work. If you notice that two items are duplicates, please merge them instead of blanking one of them. External sites use Wikidata identifiers, so it is important that we preserve the chain of references. We do this by making one item a redirect for the other. In particular, item ids are intended to be a permanent identifier, so we never reuse them for another concept. See Help:Merge for more information on how to merge items, and consider installing the Merge Gadget. Thanks! Madamebiblio (talk) 13:39, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]