Talk:Koyaanisqatsi

"New Cinema" link

In the Distribution section, the company 'New Cinema' links to the page for No Wave Cinema, which is a genre/movement and not a distribution company. Additionally, I can't find anything online about a distribution company with that name, and searching for it on Wikipedia only gives the No Wave Cinema page (which seems correct as they're interchangeable terms). Michael7198 (talk) 15:14, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

The article link is incorrect. It should either be a piped/red link or unlinked altogether, so feel free to BE BOLD and make the change. I'm pretty sure I added it to the infobox (just the name, not the link) and you can find it mentioned if you Google 'New Cinema' and 'Koyaanisqatsi' or 'New Cinema Enterprises'. It's not a well-known company (and probably doesn't even exist anymore) but it should be mentioned in the infobox. 16:25, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Inspiration for Tears For Fears video of song" No Small Thing".

Inspiration for Tears For Fears video of song" No Small Thing". Song is on album" The Tipping Point" released in 2022. 75.169.188.82 (talk) 15:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

So.... is this your own observation, or are there sources to back this up? We need sources to add any such content to the article. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/tears-for-fears-release-new-single-no-small-thing/

"Inspired by Koyaanisqatsi, the "No Small Thing" music video was made using solely found footage showing the conflict between individual freedoms and collective responsibility. Watch it here." 207.34.173.15 (talk) 20:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Pronounciation update

I've updated the pronounciation in the lead sentence and I want to clarify my changes here to prevent any further edits:

• Hopi pronounciation is based on the IPA chart in the official Hopi Dictionary (link here; requires free login to Internet Archive)
• Since some Hopi sounds are not in the English language, I've replaced those with the closest English equivalents found at Help:IPA/English (e.g. Hopi q → English k)
• Syllable breakdown is based on the title screen at the end of the film, which reads: ko.yaa.nis.qatsi[1]

• The last two syllables ("qatsi") are slightly different in Hopi and English. It would be pronounced "qa-tsi" in Hopi with, but "qat-si" in English (due to the lack of a proper "ts" sound in English).

	K	O	Y	AA	N	I	S	Q	A	T	S	I
Hopi IPA	k	o	j	ɑː	n	i	s	q	ɑ	t͡s	i
English IPA	k	oʊ	j	ɑː	n	i	s	k	ɒ	t	s	i
English respelling	koh		YAH		nees			KOT			see

• I've also added 2 alternative pronouncations from other English sources and added them into the article as a footnote.

–Dream out loud (talk) 09:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

I made some fixes to the IPA characters for the "a"/"aa" vowels:

	K	O	Y	AA	N	I	S	Q	A	T	S	I
Hopi IPA	k	o	j	aː	n	i	s	q	a	t͡s	i
English IPA	k	oʊ	j	ɑː	n	i	s	k	ɑː	t	s	i
English respelling	koh		YAH		nees			KAHT			see

–Dream out loud (talk) 09:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Update on more changes:

• To better comply with MOS:PRONPLACEMENT, pronounciations have been formatted into a footnote.
• The "alternative pronouncations" were removed. Although they were both taken from reliable sources, they were nevertheless incorrect. Both of those cited pronouncations had incorrect syllabifications and added in an extra consonant or vowel sound that isn't present.
• Because the page Help:IPA/Hopi does not exist (at the time of writing), it should be noted that the citation for the Hopi pronouncation is the "Spelling and pronounciation" section in the appendix of the Hopi Dictionary, which includes an IPA chart (p. 863) and explanation of syllabification and word stress (p. 864). The section states the following:

"Syllable structure: The rule of syllabification is straightforward: a single constonant followed by a vowel begins a syllable."

In words longer than 2-syllables, "the second syllable is normally stressed if the first syllable is short". The book continues to list exceptions to this rule, however, none of them apply to koyaanisqatsi.

• The footnote which cited the syllabification in the film's end title screen was removed for redundancy.

–Dream out loud (talk) 17:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

The Hopi Dictionary

Isn't it a bit circular to quote that work as a proof of the meaning of "koyaanisqatsi"? I mean the Hopi Dictionary was published 20 years after the film, so that I would expect a current meaning to be heavily influenced by it. At least that age gap should be mentioned, to not give a false impression of trying to prove what the film title meant in the 1970s. --BjKa (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

It appears to me that it is cited as a pronunciation guide. I also kind of doubt this movie had much influnce on a language that is thousands of years old. The first English-Hopi dictionary was written in 1860. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 22:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)